Site rules/policies

[swoffa]

Is there a listing of the site rules & policies somewhere?

I understand that this site is owned/run by a tackle store, but there's no advertising for the store anywhere.

I just want to see the rules before I slip up and say the wrong thing...

[bluecod]

Andrew,

Admin says "Welcome to Sydney's newest forums. It is yours to use with none of the normal restrictions. Go to town and enjoy."

Nothing in the FAQ's - I reckon if we stick to being polite and helpful and not winding someone up the wrong way then we should be right.

[swoffa]

I'd checked the FAQs too, didn't see anything.

I agree that as long as everyone is civil and courteous there won't be a problem. So let's all play nice alright! :)

[crow]

After all isn't this here to bag your mates out & help those (like me) who need tips/hints from seasoned fisho's?

[the_lure]

I'd checked the FAQs too, didn't see anything.

I agree that as long as everyone is civil and courteous there won't be a problem. So let's all play nice alright! :)

No Rules Swoff, game on :P

want to take this outside?

[plfishfingers]

Hi Everyone :D
As mentioned on the top of the page, go nuts. Just remember that if you do go ballistic on someone it may come back at you in spades full. Id like to think this forum as a happy place and all can enjoy.
Id like Kris to make just one rule,
No photos of dead fish and if youre going to take photos of a big flathead for instance, report you let her go whether you did or not. No photos of catches of fish on plastic on the garage floor, magazines wont except any photos of this nature so I believe OUR new website should try to apply the same rules. I hope others feel the same way.
Great to see people are avoiding the OTHER site as personal opinions were not very welcome, here they are.
Once again Kris good work on the new forum.
All the best
Peter

[iain]

Peter, if them's the rules we'll stick by them. I think unnecessary images of dead fish are not required, especially if posted as a 'gee up'.

Can we debate the merit of such a policy though?

I have a reputation as a 'catch and kill' freak but in actual fact nothing could be further from the truth. I let many more fish go that I keep and, for those that read that bunfight on the 'other' site, I'd have let that old Flatty go too BTW.

C&R should be promoted and embraced as a sustainable practice. That’s a no-brainer. C&R should not however be seen as compulsory and taking a feed home for your family or next door neighbour should also be viewed as an equally legitimate practice and not criticised (no matter how subtle).

Pretending everyone lets every fish go will only serve to promote the stigma and unfair practice of criticising those that don’t. I don’t think that’s in the best interest of anyone.

Let’s keep our eye on the ball and always remember one pro trawler will take a hundred times more fish out of the river than all of us on this site combined. Pointing the finger at a bloke who legally keeps a feed of fish is really misdirected and the attention should be directed to the lawmakers who determine minimum sizes and bag limits and who let the pro’s pillage our fishery.

I also don’t think we need to run scared of the radical ‘ban fishing’ PETA greenies. In fact the greenies see catching fish to eat as a more legitimate practice than catching and releasing fish purely for fun.

So what does this all mean?
1) Be honest and proud of our pastime.
2) If you C&R let everyone know in your reports
3) If you legally keep a feed then that’s cool and nobody has the right to comment

If this respect for personal preference is adhered to then we can be 100% guaranteed to be free of angst on this issue. Furthermore we won't have to lie to ourselves to legitimise our wonderful and much loved sport.

Again Peter, you blokes own the site and you blokes pay the bills so no disrespect is intended.

[swoffa]

As everyone who's fished with me knows, I'm all for C&R whenever possible, but I don't think there's a need to lie about it on a public forum. There's nothing wrong with somebody keeping fish for the table, as long as it's within the legal size and bag limits.
I never condem anyone for keeping fish. I have had a go at various people for boasting about keeping up to 60 fish from one outing, especially when some of them have complained on the forum the following week that they couldn't find any fish. :evil:

If anglers wish to keep fish to eat, then that's the individual's choice and they also have the right to include that choice in their report.

I agree 100% about the photos, magazines wouldn't print pics of dead fish and they shouldn'd be allowed on here. Dead and bloody fish pics in reports detract from the post anyway, especially when they're on the garage floor or in the bath tub.
It's not difficult to take a photo while out on the boat, I can never understand why people wait until they get home to do it, surely they realise that the pics look crap when they download them. I've had some great days on the water and decided not to post reports because my pics of live fish didn't come out as well as I'd hoped...

[Target]

Iain

Well said, I too am of the brigade that I catch a feed of fish, but also put alot more back than I keep. The missus doesnt eat fish either, so that means I keep only enough for me to eat too :) and never keep fish that I wont eat that night.

I note Peter that you indicate that fishing mags dont take photos of dead fish anymore, not having bought a fishing mag for a while I had not noticed. What happens with the shimano catch of the month now? I'd also like to know that 'if' I catch a great fish at night like a big jewie (highly unlikely for me), and decide to keep the fish (within the law) and take a photo the next morning when theres some light, the no dead fish rule will exclude sharing that photo. Dont get me wrong, theres alot of good points in not showing a bunch of dead fish in a photo, and we should (and do) promote catch and release sustainable fishing.

There are rules set down by fisheries that let us know how many fish and how big those fish are that we keep, I dont think that anyone should ever be bagged for keeping their legal limit, and note that both those limits are being reviewed at the moment, and that most members of this type of forum generally have their own limits much lower than the legal limit. Sure, we can voice our opinion that for example a maximum size of flathead should be introduced (touchy subject I know), but not to put people down for keeping a fish within the limits.

I hope I have not started a bun fight, but I think that its good to get it out in the open for debate at the start of the forum as Iain has suggested. If the rules are to only show photos of live fish, then thats all I'll do. Happy to stick to the rules.

Also if this string starts up a bun fight, please delete, we dont to start another WW3.

Adrian

PPS, Andrew, you must type faster than me, by a whole 10 minutes. OK, back to work for me.

[Grantm]

Yeah I was in the middle of that war as you know. Loved every minute of it. :twisted:

Good to openly air what peoples views are and it certainly increased the awareness levels on the subject.

Totaly agree with everyone philosyphy here abour catching a few and keeping a few and not critising people for their choice.

As for photos of dead fish, well ive shots are better but i agree with Target about some fish taken under certain conditions.

Ive not been too offended by a pic of a big Jew the next day.

Ill just go with the rules like you blokes. Im just happy to catch a fish worthy of a photo :lol: :lol:

[the_lure]

Agree with everything being said.

will point out that I think without highlighting to people the fact that some fish may be breeders and some may be slow growing etc then they will never learn and therefore never be in a position to oppose/change fisheries legistlation or initiate research and study.

These attempts should not be in a manner that puts anyone down or thrusts an opinion, but more a helpful education, likewise there should be respect and understanding, no personal attacks or insults from those reading, catching or providing there own personal opinions.

As mentioned by most here, Im a catch and release fisho mostly as i do not

a) like to freeze fish
b) have a big family
c) I get out more than most fishos would
d) because we dont have enough info on big lizards and bream to make me think it is ok to keep them.

cheers

Chris

[Grantm]

Interesting how this topic just wont go away. It seemed to follow us here :lol:

Now the dust has settled it is good to see that every one has pretty much the same views or has learnt to respect other peoples a bit more anyway.

Dont think we will go down that other road now that everying has been put out there and discussed. At least i hope not. :wink:

[plfishfingers]

Hi Guys
Firstly I dont own the site Iian but Ill have it if Kris or Stefan gives it to me. :wink:
My aim on the photo thing was to try and stop crap from hitting the fan. I thought that by taking photos of live fish it will make viewing photos more pleasant.
I kill fish every day for customers so its not that fish are being kept to eat that is a worry at all. I dont even get offended very easily so photos of big fish at home doesnt upset me its just a quality thing.
A customer of mine mentioned recently that he pulled out the photo album of his past fishing exploits and told me how disappointing the fish are in the album because they were all dead.
He grew up in the country and likened it to viewing photos of dead cows waiting to be cut up by his dad. His exact words were "everything looks better when its alive so why didnt I take photos of the fish before they were killed?".
If photos of dead fish have to be used due to a night fish then maybe the heads still need to be attached.
I hope that everyone can put forward an idea or rule that will improve this site.
All the best
Peter

[sydfish]

pete shouldnt we ALL be against getting wild caght fish (KINGIES) from the dodgy bros at the fish markets after all they are the ones ruining our fishing grounds!!!

[mrsswordfisherman]

Hi all - yes I think I am the only woman in the members list so far. I am taking my life in my hands posting with no allies but here goes.... lol. I am a little worried that when I land a Marlin I will have to hold it up while it is still alive (so you believe I caught it). Jesus they are feisty when you pull em out of the water!! Swordfisherman will have to help me hold it up omg! Forgive me for asking but is this site a fishing site or a greenies forum?? :( Also can we please dispense with the tragic photo doctoring, I honestly love to see a shot of a fabulous catch with our picturesque Aussie landscapes in the background. Some pics posted are completely spoiled by the amateurish attempts to "mask" the locations. An able photographer can frame the shot so that no background other than water can be seen. Its also easy to cut the pic. Ahhhh please no comments on the secret location issue (been there done that lol), just remember the secret location is like a mistress...... frequently used but never spoken about. :roll:
All jokes aside, looking forward to reading some exciting fishing reports and gaining some knowledge from you experienced guys :D

[mr antenna]

Here,s my suggestion.
Unlike some other fishing sites,if you put up a report,whether its River or Offshore,you must have a picture to go with it.
I think the picture makes the report that much more interesting.

What do you think?LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
Of course i have to learn how to put a pic up :roll:

[swoffa]

Here,s my suggestion.
Unlike some other fishing sites,if you put up a report,whether its River or Offshore,you must have a picture to go with it.
I think the picture makes the report that much more interesting.

What do you think?LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
Of course i have to learn how to put a pic up :roll:

I generally don't read reports unless they have pics to go with them, unless they're submitted by someone I know.

It's a good policy, but can't really be enforced as a rule.

[JOC00L]

Is there a listing of the site rules & policies somewhere?
............I just want to see the rules before I slip up and say the wrong thing...

Give it time Andrew. I'm sure rules will be drafted soon. I'm also sure you will slip up in the not too distant future! :P :P :twisted:

[bluecod]

Although I do have digital - some don't and it wouldn't be fair on them besides, some of the better reports rely on description and not photos

[swoffa]

I'm also sure you will slip up in the not too distant future! :P :P :twisted:

Who me? Never! :evil:

At least with no mods both sides will have the opportunity to explain themselves and justify their points of view without a closed-minded admin playing god.

[mr antenna]

At least with no mods both sides will have the opportunity to explain themselves and justify their points of view without a closed-minded admin playing god.[/quote]



:D :D :D :D :D AGREE TOTALLY WITH SWOFFA :D :D :D :D :D
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[JOC00L]

both sides will have the opportunity to explain themselves and justify their points of view without a closed-minded admin playing god.

Even WITH mods it can still work!

[swoffa]

Even WITH mods it can still work!

Yes, with a select few mods it can work.

[mr antenna]

I got nothing against [mods]as long as they let u have a bit of fun,abit of a gee up,and so on.Gotto have fun :D

[Grantm]

Speaking of Mods looks like we've got some.

Nice move Admin, these guys will do a great job.

Nice to see you Jimbo, Pedro and Darryl.

This site is really looking good now

:D :D