New Size and Bag Limits coming in for Fish!!!!

[xtosea]

Coming into force 3rd September.

Introducing a new minimum legal length of 30cm for pearl perch.
Increasing the minimum legal length for yellowtail kingfish from 60cm to 65cm.
Increasing the minimum legal length for luderick (blackfish) from 25cm to 27cm.
Introducing a minimum legal length of 60cm for dolphin fish (mahi-mahi). Additionally, only one fish may measure over 110cm.
Introducing new combined bag limit of 20 for bream and tarwhine.
A bag limit reduction from 20 to 10 will now apply to bonito, dolphin fish, octopus, rubberlip and jackass morwong.
A bag limit reduction from 2 to 1 will now apply to highly prized billfish species, including sailfish and swordfish. A bag limit of 1 will also apply to each species of marlin. Reducing the bag limit will still allow for a trophy fish to be taken.
A minimum legal length of 30cm will be introduced for blue groper. These fish mature as females between 24 and 34cm and change sex to males at about 60cm. The new size limit will protect females prior to maturity.
The legal length for rubberlip morwong has been increased by 2cm to 30cm and the bag limit reduced to 10.
The minimum legal length for red morwong will be increased from 25cm to 30cm. This aims to improve protection of small fish in shallow water.
A combined bag limit of 5 will now apply to all shark and ray species, including only 1 tiger, mako, blue shark, hammerhead and whaler species. A zero bag limit will now apply to wobbegong sharks.

More info here
http://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/aboutus/news/recent-news/fishing-and-aquaculture/new-fishing-limits

Kamil

[fishinf]

20 is still to many bream per person
other wise all good

[TomMc]

thats alot better then before.
but i agree with fishinf 20 bream is still to many

[hoodlum]

That's a combined bag limit of 20 for bream not each (I think)

[quintrex101]

good rules but as tomMc and fishinf said 20 bream is still to many, i mean u catch 20 bream and what if they just going to get freezed,

[quintrex101]

That's a combined bag limit of 20 for bream not each (I think)

yes hoodlum it is combined with tarwhine but combined could mean 19bream and 1 tarwhine, thats no good is it

i also say bream size should go up to 29cm size limit, 25cm is a pretty small bream, i thrown them back at that size and tarwhine should go up to 25cms, 20cms is a small tarwhine, and one last thing sand whiting should go up to 30cms, a 27cm whiting would not have breed but a 30cm whiting would breed about 3 or 4 times, correct me if i am wrong

[hoodlum]

Yes quini ,

But I dont know anyone that bags that many unless the fish are divided up between 3-4 people. I for one would stop at 4 myself. But they are breeding well in Queensland with the netting bans now in place. I have a place on the canals in south east qld . At my back door are millions of bream fry every day hiding upstream from the predators,,But at least THE LIMIT is coming down thats good news.

Just take a minute and think ,,,, Every minute approx 10,000 fish bream included are dragged up in a commercial net around the world. Now 20 bag limit for a whole day doesn't seem that bad to me,, Sure there not our exact species,,, But ban netting for a season or two in nsw and the stocks will flourish!!!! But thats not going to happen!!:noway:

Hoodlum

[imnotafish]

"quote"
Introducing a minimum legal length of 60cm for dolphin fish (mahi-mahi). Additionally, only one fish may measure over 110cm.
A bag limit reduction from 20 to 10 will now apply to bonito, dolphin fish, octopus, rubberlip and jackass morwong.
A bag limit reduction from 2 to 1 will now apply to highly prized billfish species, including sailfish and swordfish. A bag limit of 1 will also apply to each species of marlin. Reducing the bag limit will still allow for a trophy fish to be taken.
"quote"

Cool they r pretty sweet....
I have been very keen for a dollie limit for ages....
but where is the squid bag limit??? - all types - i know that the bait fish limit is 20 but no one either knows or listens when it comes to squid -

i am of the opinion that 20 squid per boat all types (arrows callies or cuttlefish) is plenty...


Am very keen to know what everyone thinks about these regulations...

Do you think we should have them and take responsibility for the management of the fisheries as rec fishos if the pro's are not obliged to cut down too or should we lead the way???

The pros have had to take some substantial cuts of late and may face more so it seems fair to me.....

i like to look at the sea as a massive farm.
if you have a farm that can hold 20 000 cattle and you only have 200 cattle - you dont sell the first 200 calves you get in the firsat year - you breed em up and build the farm up till it is fully stocked - and then you can take 20 000 calves every year.
the sea is so big why do we still take the breeding stock????

[TomMc]

i was listening to 2ky in the morning and theres also some other changes, the main one is the banning of set lines (you cant be further then 50m from your rod), i know alot of the freshwater fisherman have been pushing for this.

[beats]

Haven't checked yet but Lee just mentioned there will also be a closed season on bass in estuaries. Don't overly think that it's nessasary most damage is done by netters in breeding times, that's what they should be looking at. Bet half of em end up in windows as bream fillets & the guys that do do the so called right thing, chuck em back dead anyway.
PS if there are any pro's reading that want to say thats rubbish, too bad, i've seen it happen. may be you job, tell someone who cares.
And yep Tom set lines were always banned but they are including un manned rods now so thats good also.

[TomMc]

greg, lee is right theres a closed season for bass now, from memory its june-augest.

[beats]

New fishing bag and size limits announced

The Iemma Government has announced changes to saltwater and freshwater fishing rules after extensive consultation with NSW recreational and commercial fishers.
Minister for Primary Industries, Ian Macdonald, said the bag and size limits for recreational fishing are reviewed periodically to ensure a sustainable future for high quality recreational fishing in NSW. The size limits also apply to commercial fishing.
“These changes reflect the findings of scientific assessments, the National Recreational and Indigenous Fishing Survey, the Palmer inquiry into illegal fishing, advice from expert committees of fishers and more than 3300 public submissions,” Mr Macdonald said.
The changes to freshwater fishing include –
• Increasing the minimum legal length for Murray cod and a new closed season for Australian bass and estuary perch to protect breeding fish.
• Leaving a line unattended will now be prohibited but the distance a fisher can be from each line has been increased.
• Simplifying the trout water classifications.
The changes to saltwater fishing include –
• New minimum legal length limits for pearl perch, yellowtail kingfish, luderick (blackfish) dolphin fish (mahi-mahi), blue groper and morwong.
• Bag limit reductions from 20 to 10 for bonito, dolphin fish, octopus, rubberlip and jackass morwong and a new combined bag limit of 20 for bream and tarwhine.
• Bag limit reductions from 2 to 1 for popular billfish species, including marlin.
Mr Macdonald said a number of changes would also be made to improve the management of fishing competitions, including developing a voluntary code of practice.” he said.
“About one million people enjoy recreational fishing each year in NSW.
“These changes are about working with the community to progressively improve fishing rules to ensure the future sustainability and viability of our valuable fisheries resources”
The changes will start on September 3, 2007. NSW DPI will undertake an extensive public advisory campaign over the coming months to promote the changes, including new fishing guides and updated signage around NSW waterways.
New Recreational fishing rules - additional background information
The major changes to freshwater fishing include –
• Leaving a line unattended will now be prohibited; this aims to reduce the injury, stress and death of fish and invertebrates that result from being caught on unattended lines. However the distance a person can be from each line will increase from 10 metres to 50 metres.
• Increasing the minimum legal length for Murray cod, to provide better protection for immature fish. The current legal length will increase to 55cm after 1 December 2007 and to 60cm after 1 December 2008.
• A new closed season for Australian bass and estuary perch from June 1 to August 31 each year to allow the fish to spawn.
• Simplifying the trout water classifications to two categories; artificial fly and lure only waters and general trout waters.
• The bag limit for unlisted native fish, which previously had no limit, will now be set at 10.

The major changes to saltwater fishing include –
• Introducing a new minimum legal length of 30cm for pearl perch.
• Increasing the minimum legal length for yellowtail kingfish from 60cm to 65cm.
• Increasing the minimum legal length for luderick (blackfish) from 25cm to 27cm.
• Introducing a minimum legal length of 60cm for dolphin fish (mahi-mahi). Additionally, only one fish may measure over 110cm.
• Introducing new combined bag limit of 20 for bream and tarwhine.
• A bag limit reduction from 20 to 10 will now apply to bonito, dolphin fish, octopus, rubberlip and jackass morwong.
• A bag limit reduction from 2 to 1 will now apply to highly prized billfish species, including sailfish and swordfish. A bag limit of 1 will also apply to each species of marlin. Reducing the bag limit will still allow for a trophy fish to be taken.
• A minimum legal length of 30cm will be introduced for blue groper. These fish mature as females between 24 and 34cm and change sex to males at about 60cm. The new size limit will protect females prior to maturity.
• The legal length for rubberlip morwong has been increased by 2cm to 30cm and the bag limit reduced to 10.
• The minimum legal length for red morwong will be increased from 25cm to 30cm. This aims to improve protection of small fish in shallow water.
• A combined bag limit of 5 will now apply to all shark and ray species, including only 1 tiger, mako, blue shark, hammerhead and whaler species. A zero bag limit will now apply to wobbegong sharks.
A full list of changes can also be found at www.dpi.nsw.gov.au
Media contact: Jason Bartlett, 0438 209 28
(http://www.sportsfish.com.au/pages/library/fisheries-news/new-south-wales/new_bag_limits.html)


Thats it, but it's not a closed season, it's a zero bag limit so thats great & won't bother most bass fisho's anyway as it's always catch & release & not that many target them much in the colder months anyway.

[willo]

As you catch so many Kingies at 59cm when the legal length is 60, I reckon the new length should be 85cm :wiink:

[xtosea]

I'm all for it, looks good. I think that our Kings are gonna be huge in another few years time! I cant wait for that!
Finally something on Dolly's, the amount of baby's ives seen take in my time was silly, maybe we will have bigger Dolly's come summer time too.
Glad the Billfish stocks have been reduced. 1 is enough.
Seems to be going in right direction.
Kamil

[imnotafish]

As you catch so many Kingies at 59cm when the legal length is 60, I reckon the new length should be 85cm :wiink:


Spot on Willo, thats the best call ive heard all week!! :rofl:

Think the legal in NZ is 75cm's and look at the size of the kings there!

[mulloway mayhem]

well i cant understand the legal size of jews.....45cms......

man have you seen how small a 45cm jew is.....i reckon it should be 70cm

well atleast some things have changed but they should think about uping the legal size of jewies....45cm is way to small i reckon

[imnotafish]

well i cant understand the legal size of jews.....45cms......

man have you seen how small a 45cm jew is.....i reckon it should be 70cm

well atleast some things have changed but they should think about uping the legal size of jewies....45cm is way to small i reckon


Mate - That i completely agree with.
Could be the reason they dont is a 45cm fish is considered mature when they farm them. Mind you they dont have much of a chance to breed if we take em as soon as they are of breeding age..!

Off the top of my head a 45cm fish is about 2.5 - 3yrs old?
Does that sound right Wayneo?

At least on the plus side Fisheries are still breeding Jewies for us. In Sydney they're releasing fingerlings every year in Broken Bay, Botany Bay and ive heard even in the Harbour.

And you'll love this one - They've even gone to the length of training the baby jews to get out of nets. Saw a show on Catalyst where they were doing research in conjunction with i think Sydney Uni. They found that if they teach 10 fish what a net is and how to avoid being trapped (apparently they learn suprisingly quickly) and then put those ten with ten seperate schools - the fish that have the knowledge teach all the hundreds of others in their new school much more quickly than they learnt and suddenly you've got 1000 net shy jewies!

[mulloway mayhem]

i would say about 2.5 yrs old mate......45cm way to small.........let em live and grow i say

[xtosea]

I agree that Jews should be put up also, to at least 60cm thats my view.

Fish of 2 years of age average 46cm and are roughly 1.5kg, and they dont mature til they are about 6 years of age and about 75cm.

Taken from here;
http://outernode.pir.sa.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0006/33981/mulloway.pdf

[imnotafish]

sweet then theres my answer - the legal should be 80cm 4 jewies..... 5cm's above the reporoductive size to give em at least a year or two for breeding.
i think the 45cm mature thing i was thinking of must be the age they sell the farmed ones at to the restaurant trade..... (while still immature)
must be like veal.....

[xtosea]

Just a reminder these have now come into effect, there has also been an update to it, which can be found here (http://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/fisheries/recreational/summary-bag).
Happy fishing everyone.
Kamil

[storms72]

Kamil when we came in from fishing at Bellambi on sunday there was a rec fishing guy there taking details and measurements of fish to sort out the next round of bag/size limits...He was a real nice guy hey, wouldn't share the local hot spots with Maurice though and no he wasn't keen to accept our bribe of a couple kilo's of smelly pillies and assorted tuna oiled suprise:rolling laughter: :rolling laughter:

[mr antenna]

Think the legal in NZ is 75cm's and look at the size of the kings there!

There are so many King fish being caught at the moment,cause their is so many around,
Changing the size limit to 65 ,Still not enough,Shame it,s not 70CM.
About the DOLLIES,good move,Kamil is right so many little ones are taken home.

[marioshemo]

Love a post (like this one) that gets everyone thinking.
It would make sense to educate the average bloke on breeding sizes of fish and imposing more restrictions on large breeding stock.
It's being done in a small way now but it's not enough.
I personally don't know enough about the subject (fish breeding) and would be keen to find out more.

Cheers