Advice on SP's

[FrgdEd]

Hi Guys,

Having just got back into fishing......I usually fish around Botany Bay, land based bait. One day when things where a bit quiet, I decided to put on an old metal "kelly lure" (only lure i had in the Tackle box!) and try some spinning. Landed a couple of Tailor and it was fun.

I have never used SP's but am really keen to try them, particularly those suitable for spinning across sand flats for flatty's.

I have looked at a few types and brands in the shop but not sure what to buy. Someone once mentioned "Pumpkin seeds" were good?

Are there different SP's for other species also? or do some types catch many?
Is is better to buy the plastics and Weighted hooks separately?

I'd appreciate any advice on the subject.

FrgdEd

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nearly all S/P's work, the main brands are so because they are proven fish catchers, some have scents & some have biological developed pheromones or both, the ones that dont have them can be added by you and are available at most good tackle stores. if the fish are fussey you may need them, if they are aggressivly taking them you can leave it off and save it for when you do.
Greg.

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I have a pic of some sp's i have got in my tackle box, but i dont know how to attach them.

I am heading down batemans bay way on thursday, and there is a little creek that opens into the ocean. So never using sp's b4 i want to try in there, unknow get the feel etc but i want to make sure the ones i have are ok.

i did spend some time throwing them around in the pool, couldnt get on though - not even a toddler.....LOL - watching the way the react n stuff

Pls help, i need a quick fix as i wont be on here on Thursday

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Roy,
If using on sand or mud, you can cast out on a 1/8 oz jig head & slow roll across the bottom any plastic with a swiming action built in (eg:some sort of tail ) if using stick baits (eg: berkley, 3" bass minnows or squidgy, flick baits) cast out & hop them(twitch-twitch-hop & wind up slack line as lure is dropping back to the bottom(nice & slow). can also use this retrieve for all plastics or in snaggy areas, keeping it just off the bottom by using a lighter jig head.
For flatties target the flats & edges on a rising tide & the edges of drop offs & gutters on a falling tide, starting high on the edge & working deeper as it falls.
Fann your casts in a semi circle & work each area thoroughly, then move along & repeat.
Don't be suprised if you also get bream & whiting, I cant even remember how many different types of fish I have caught while fishing for bream on S/P's. Have "CONFIDENCE" its preaty easy. Also try bends when tides git a bit fast behind every corner is an eddy, where the water slows & forms a type of light whirlpool, this is where bait fish hide from the current(FISH are where the bait is).
Best of luck!
Greg.

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Thanks Greg,

The three types i have all have a little spade like tail, and are about 2".

They are atomic tomato, pumpinseed & a silver/grey coloured one.

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they will work fine, maybe also take some 3" curl tails killer tomato or jelly prawn.

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Ok now the next question.

I dont want to get real technical but is a normal knot ok or do i have to learn a new one :( LoL

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Most anglers use a loop knot to allow the lure more action.
Tie a granny 1st,small but do not tighten. slide j/head on tag end. put tag through granny, hold tag & main & twist j/head 4 times, then put tag back through granny, lube & tighten.
try to keep loop where hook sits small (2-3mm).then cut off tag end.
Good luck.
Greg.

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Report on my first "real" effort on sp's

Whilst i didn't catch anything i did get a hit on the 2" atomic tomato.

So i am now prepared to try again, am heading up the h/bury this weekend so i think i should take my "little" rod.

Just on my "little" rod its a diawa silvercast with matching reel, and as i dont want to get all professional just a bit more success, is this rod ok for sp's targeting bream,flatties & the like?

[sydfish]

The silvercast will be just fine. A fairly new plastic by berkley, a 6in sandworm will pretty much guarantee a hookup. hop half a worm on a jighead across any sandflat near mangroves at the higher end of the tide and you will almost certianly hook anything from whiting, bream, flathead, flounder, tailor or whatever is around. I got 10 whiting, 7 bream and 4 flatties in less than an hour last sunday. I was surprised to see how many took them in comparison to other plastics, though they make it a bit harder to target a particular species, I wanted bream!!! The gulp range is also better for the environment and the fish. Tradditional plastics dont break down for a long time, and they can cause fish some serious problems if they become lodged in the gut, often killing them. Gulp plastics however are biodegradeable and can actually be eaten by the fish. Downsides to the gulps are they dry out, out of the bag and are only good for 15 minutes in the water as the get sloppy and fall off the hook.
K

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Kris, thanks mate

I am heading over tomorrow to get some prawns anyway, so i will have a chat to who ever is there about rigging those gulps etc.

I mean i could just go somewhere in Penrith, but i'll support your store whenever its possible (& being saturday, the kids & wheel being out gr8 chance to go for a drive)

[FrgdEd]

On the subject of GULP Sandworms...I recently bought some and used a standard bait rig - Caught two small bream. But you are right, they get very soft after a bit in the water.

Ed