Braid or Mono ?

[The Hun]

Hi Guys,

people might have asked this question,

But i would like to know what the xperienced people like to use when fishing.

and does it make the difference ?


And if so what Brans are good and what are not...

eg light gear under 20lbs etc etc etc...

[Dog Catcher]

Mono all the way tried braid for about a yeah & didn't like the stuff so pissed it virtually all off exept for a couple of outfits which I haven't used in ages.

[Pukunui]

Yeah i use mainly mono
but in the last year have spooled up a couple of heavier outfits with braid for kings.

I just cant get used to the feel of braid though, so prefer mono if im fishing with dead bait or light line.

[TomMc]

i prefer braid for casting and lure work...
mono for everything else.

[Mr Potato Head]

Mono for me to, tried braid and got sick of knots.. The feel was nice, but im happy with mono for less hassle.. The Lo Strech stuff works a treat to..

Currently had a friend supply my 3kg spin outfit with some ande and its nice to use. :)

[anyluck]

When I am casting soft plastics I prefer Braid as you get a better feel when retrieving. If i am fishing with bait then mono simply due to the fact I find it easier to tie my knots with.

[Dog Catcher]

When I am casting soft plastics I prefer Braid as you get a better feel when retrieving

anyluck not having a dig @ you I see this excuse given all the time but for the life of me I cant see how anybody can justify that comment ???

When I'm retrieving I have one hand on the rod & the other on the reel handle & any hits that I may get are felt through the line rod itself not the line.

[mulloway mayhem]

When I am casting soft plastics I prefer Braid as you get a better feel when retrieving. If i am fishing with bait then mono simply due to the fact I find it easier to tie my knots with.

when you tie your knots you shouldnt tie hooks straight to braid anyhow...you should be using mono leader mate....(if thats what you do,and im not sure by what you wrote it just sounded like that)

i use braid and cant understand why others dont use it........i never have problems with casting big big baits out for jews and never get tangles and the feel is direct to your bait.......maybe some people like dont like change but also with the thin diameter of baid i get so much more braid on my reels then i would mono ...........definatly recomend it......

[willo]

The better feel comes with the zero stretch which gives you a much better connection to your lure and ability to work it exactly how you want.

[Dog Catcher]

i never have problems with casting big big baits out for jews and never get tangles

Your fishing in current & the tangles refered to are wind knots & wind knots are generated by continually casting your lure + the braid you'd be using is of a heavier nature go down to a lighter braid the come back & tell me the stuff dosen't tangle & I'm not refering to wind knots either.

You get 2 bait lines together add current to the equation then come back & tell me braid dosen't tangle.

The better feel comes with the zero stretch which gives you a much better connection to your lure and ability to work it exactly how you want.

willo thats another poor excuse & just another comment echoed from fisherman to another generally by those who rarely fish & hang on to the ideals of others.

Tell me how far do you cast a lure ???

Wot 10 - 30 meters maybe 40 meters ??

How much stretch could you possible get in mono over that distance ????????

[mulloway mayhem]

i have up to 6-8 lines out behind my boat with livies/dead baits and never get tangles...not to sure what your saying but braid is the go i would never use mono again....

all my bait rods have braid also and ive never had a prob there either.......

its just 1 guys opinion over another...best thing to do is try bth and use what you feel is better...thats what i do....

happy days....:rolling laughter:

[borisboga]

I use braid for lures
Mono for baits.
And i refuse to use braid if the outfit is lighter than 8 pounds.

[Dog Catcher]

Very Simple !

How you fish is very different to how prob 70% of those using braid fish.

You may very well have 6 lines out the back of the boat but you'll also have them set @ various intervals & you use lead which is a key factor.

Now the majority of those using braid buy it to use on spin outfits & when I read the same old things over & over again low stretch , better feel etc etc of course I'm going to Q those people because they are unfounded comments repeated over & over again.

Like I said I still have a couple of outfits with braid on them they are outfits which have overhead reels on them & there's prob about 400 - 500 meters of braid spooled on them I use those outfits in deep water when using padamoster rigs.

Suppose braid is OK on baitcasters as well as you dont get wind knots on those types of reels still have it on a couple of the cronachs. but would never put braid on a threadline reel again.

There's also the myth that braid is alot stronger than mono & that may be true if you wrap it around your hands & try to break it.

Braid looses 50% of it's breaking strain @ the knots unlike mono which only loses 5% & this has been proven time & time again on the IGFA line testing machines so when you buy Braid it's breaking strain is rated @ the knot.

Not how most people rate it by trying to break the braid in there hands

Another thing with braid if it rubs up against reef /structure then it weakens @ a far greater rate than mono does.

And in my books the price you pay for braid you are far better off buying a good quality much larger spool of mono.

Braid has been around for a long long time & the only reason it is so popular these days is because it is marketed well, in the old days you didn't have your ET's, Yipperty Yapperta's Starlo's etc etc on the idiot box getting sponsored/payed to tell you's Braid is the way to go & I doubt very much many of you get out enough to really test how good Braid is opposed to Mono.

[sclark3]

I luv braid on my twin power tossing soft plastics for Snapper and on 3kg spin outfit aslo luve mono on my baitrunner each serve a purpose when fishing different styles :cool-smiley:

[willo]

willo thats another poor excuse & just another comment echoed from fisherman to another generally by those who rarely fish & hang on to the ideals of others.

Tell me how far do you cast a lure ???

Wot 10 - 30 meters maybe 40 meters ??

How much stretch could you possible get in mono over that distance ????????

mmmm... not sure about others but my comment comes from personal experience, I'm 38 and have been fishing since I was 7 I've casted with mono and braid, and there is a clear difference in the feel you're a bold man to argue that there isn't.

As you raised the subject of casting, braid will give you more distance so theres another plus.

How much stretch who knows? but what I can tell you is the stretch is less than mono thats the point, hence the greater sense of connectedness with your lure.

[Hamuwaja]

I dont want to get into an arguement or anything..
but just from my experience,

I have braid on all my rods now, it took around 2 years of migration... but i wont use mono again...

I just like the way it handles, feels, etc etc...

My boat rods trolling, casting, and bottom fishing i use it ...

My heavier outfits have 30 and 50 pound braid- joined to around 2-4 meters of mono the mono is then where i tie my lures to. or if bottom fishing i will tie on a swivel to this mono and attach my leader...

I have found no problems fishing it...

And Pukunui used to have mono on his heavier stuff...

We always fished together, and did about the same... He could pull up everything i could size wise, and i could do the same as him..

so i guess its just up to personal preference..... and what you like and are into etc...

When it comes to it though, my main reason to start off with was so i could spool 250M+ 30 pound braid onto my smaller boat reels.... the mono i could only hold around 120 maybe.... I could have used 12pound mono and gotten around the same on, being 250M but it would have been alot lighter line then... (and thats what i didnt want)

then i got used to it, and started changing all my stuff over.

but yeah as i said... when puk was using mono, and iw as using braid, we could still both bring up the same size things...

[Dog Catcher]

not sure about others but my comment comes from personal experience, I'm 38 and have been fishing since I was 7 I've casted with mono and braid, and there is a clear difference in the feel you're a bold man to argue that there isn't.

Willo !

I'm not picking on you by any means but also know I dont enter into debates that I can lose either.

In regards to your Q I dont agree with you, there are mono's & there are mono's you use the right mono then you'll find there is no no differnce @ all.

Dont know how much tackle you posses but if you have 2 identicle outfits spool one of them up with braid & the other with a good mono have a few casts with one then a few casts with the other, do this in various conditions as well I'm refering to wind.

And if you're honest with yourself you'll see there is no difference @ all, It's the outfit that makes the diference not the line & I cant possibly see how a claim like the line line being the differenc can be made not enough to warrant that claim because as I said earlier the average Joe Blo dosen't get out there often enough to really form an opinion.

I will however grant that braid is of a thinner dia & will give the illusion on casting better but again it comes back to what I also said earlier when flicking out SP's you're not pelting them out as far as you can, dont know about you but when I'm flicking SP's about I target a spot & that's where my lures goes & most of the time that spot is within 25 meters & I have no probs hitting my mark.


braid will give you more distance so theres another plus

No it wont it's an illusion go back to the 2 rod thingy & try for yourself

but what I can tell you is the stretch is less than mono thats the point, hence the greater sense of connectedness with your lure

No you haven't a point of any substance over the short distances we are refering to you are lucky to be getting 12" of stretch & thats nothing to write home about in fact having no strect can be a disadvantage on certain fish species with soft mouths.

You lose that wee bit of buffer & hooks will rip free easier with no stretch esp with the way I've seen some peeps try to rip the bloody heads off fish when they strike @ them.

[Hamuwaja]

thats why when i use braid i have a wind on mono leader of around 2-4 meters... this is heavier than my braid... i join it with a good knot, i dunno the name but its great and smooth for casting..(i can get a pic up tomorrow if needed) .. this is the line i attach my swivel and rig too, or my lure directly to.

Because it gives me enough stretch (which as DC mentioned you do need) well i think enough stretch anyway... I used to go straight from braid to the swivel then have my rig, but i thought the problem was lack of stretch too, and i used to drop alot more fish until i did the wind on...

although i highly doubt you would get 12 inches of stretch over 25 meters of braid... would you ??

It seems alot to me... but then again, i dont use mono much anymore...

[nimrod]

About 80% of my reels now have been topshot with braid.
The exception is when I am targeting Kingies I use mono.
Green Maxima is the only mono I use and been using it for 45 years.
I still have my 650 bait runner filled with Maxima but most of my other outfits have braid as a user line.
When bottom fishing I use braid down to a short double with cats paw which I attatch a Patenoster to with the length of about 1-2 metres.
All my fresh water lure casting outfits have braid.
I have been using braid of one kind and another for over 30 years and the last 7-8 years have slowly been converting to braid full time. Except for the kingie outfit.
My down rigger has braid.
Frank

[willo]

Heh dog catcher I didn't think you were picking on me, just entering into a good debate which is what this forum is about. Couple of points, I didn't say braid "casts better" I said it will give you more distance and that's no illusion.

Casting "identical outfits" with braid and good mono is a great idea and one experiment that I have done, I noticed the difference in three other areas apart from distance:
1) you mentioned wind, the smaller diamatre of braid helps to punch into the wind much better than mono
2) The lack of stretch keeps you closer connected to lure.
3) And as you mentioned less stretch when connected to a fish which makes the feel of the fight different too. This necessitates a softer action rod to help provide the cushioning that mono affords.

I'm no braid lover but to say that on identical outfits braid and mono (even good mono) provides "no difference at all" just hasn't been my experience and that's as honest as I can be

[Dog Catcher]

[quote=Hamuwaja]thats why when i use braid i have a wind on mono leader of around 2-4 meters... this is heavier than my braid... i join it with a good knot,quote]

You should be doind that with all outfits irrelevant if it's Braid or Mono.
The trace affords you quite a bit of luxury in the sense
*lets you whip out heavier weights without risk of popping mainline
*can take the abbrasion of rubbing on a fish's body
*moreso with pelagicswhen occationally they're tail wrapped

Those were just a few reasons.

willo !

My comments weren't made because I dislike Braid

I did use the stuff & gave it a very fair go for about a year & I get out & fish alot more than the average guy.

I was getting pee'd off with it gradually but the last straw was on that outing day up @ the hawkesbury a few months backs I spent more time trying to get wind knots out than I did fishing.

Gots the sh*ts a couple of times & went as far as ripping braid of & re top shotting & when I got home I resplooded all my spin outs that I use with mono.

Each to their own with tackle & take my work on it I have no shortage of tackle either but like I said earlier Braid has only gotten popular in recent years because of the way it has been marketed no other reason & peep get caught up in the hype thats all.

Go back & read Franks reply he was using the stuff 30 years back & if you want to go back futher than that Zane Grey was using dacron long B4 any of these TV guys started plugging Braid.

So the line is not new by any means just good marketing has made it very popular thats all.

[xtosea]

I have found that no doubt you pull more hooks on fish using braid, get less bites while you bait fish with it, sure it has more strength, but unlike mono, one touch of braid when it is under pressure and it will snap it whereas mono may have some abrasion resistance.
I used to use all mono when fishing for Jews heavily for first two years and caught literally hundreds of fish in that time, the 3rd year i changed all rods to braid and found that i got less Jews and bites from them, whether it was because of the braid or lack of fish i dont know but it is an observation i did make.
Kamil

[Haji]

I first used braid fishing for Flathead South of the Hacking and found that my catches improved dramatically as I could feel every little nibble. So for bottom fishing I definately support the use of Braid with a mono leader.

Fishing alongside a mate using mono I caught 4 fish to his one. Have not done any serious lure fishing with braid but have not had any problems with mono and given the added cost of braid I am unlikely to change.

Cheers

[BONECRUSHER]

I am easy, i like braided hair on some women and i like doing monos on motorbikes. Not sure how you can decide between the two. very different. Personal choise i guess. :rolling laughter:

[Mr Potato Head]

I am easy, i like braided hair on some women and i like doing monos on motorbikes. Not sure how you can decide between the two. very different. Personal choise i guess. :rolling laughter:


I prefer pigtails on women, but mono's are great on bikes!

[imnotafish]

i like straight long hair.... :rolling laughter: - ohhh and Braid over mono 4 most situations, except rock, beach and heavy offshore game

[fishboy45]

well i like to use braid for the bass.Because of the feel.

[garth]

im using mono on all my rods.

i am going to get a new baitrunner reel and put braid on it and use it as my heavier outfit for kings and bottom bouncing and mahi.

i would probably prefer mono for most stituations but the extra capacity that braid can give is why i want to go with it.

there are certain types of fishing were using mono is a complete waste of time. i.e trolling small lures for barra in shallow weedy water. This is because the best way to hook up in certain areas is to have the lure bumping into the weed (as you can be guranteed your in the strike zone).

If you are using mono you can not feel if weed is on the lure and ruining its action (or it makes it significantly harder to tell). If you are using braid, you can tell in 1 second and then rip the rod up to release the weed. This is one area where the "connectedness" argument can be demonstrated.

I think i do remeber getting a few winds knots with it tho as i was flicking lures for ages.

[willo]

One of the biggest mistakes people make with braid is they rig up old reels not designed for it, wind knots and lots of them are the result.

If you are going to go braid you need to invest in a reel that's designed to carry it. The Diawa Tierra is a good example, since spooling this up with a good quality braid (spectra power strike) my wind knot issues are all but gone.

[nimrod]

Most people that knock braid just don't know HOW to use it properly.
You have to adapt your fishing style to suit braid.
If you don't learn how to use it you will always have problems, then blame the material for the problems.
I have been using it for a long time, well before any advertising of the product became popular, and I spose I was lucky cause I learnt very quickly HOW to use the stuff.
As I said I don't use it for all applications, and ocasionally I do have a problem with it, but the problem would have accured if I were using mono as well so I don't blame the braid for my inability to handle it properly.
Frank

[Dog Catcher]

One of the biggest mistakes people make with braid is they rig up old reels not designed for it, wind knots and lots of them are the result.

If you are going to go braid you need to invest in a reel that's designed to carry it. The Diawa Tierra is a good example, since spooling this up with a good quality braid (spectra power strike) my wind knot issues are all but gone.

Cant Fully agree with you there willo I did use braid for about 6 months without a single wind knot same tackle 6 months later wind knots galore.

My decision to get rid of the braid are not just based on wind knots alone think it's a bastard for the type of fishing that I do which is using floaters on shallow reefs.

You get into a situation where the is current or tide flow & 2 lines get crossed over & @ least one of them is braid what happens ???

[willo]

Cant Fully agree with you there willo I did use braid for about 6 months without a single wind knot same tackle 6 months later wind knots galore.

Be that as it may my point remains if you use a reel designed for braid you'll get less wind knots whether its tomorrow or 6 months from now.

[Dog Catcher]

A REEL IS A REEL it's the spool design that makes the difference & to answer your Q yes the spin reel which I used is designed to handle braid.

[quintrex101]

mono for me, it easyer to use, tryed braid, too many tangles, and there impossible to break, and when tieing rigs, its hard to break the line

[Hamuwaja]

Whats a wind knot???

I dont get any tangles knots etc etc ... but i do use good swivels, not just the brasso line joiners... also good proper knots.... but i dont really know what wind knots are..

I can say one thing, the only tangles i get, is with other people, and thats still pretty rare... and due to the fact that braid costs heaps, i make sure not to cut them at all...

If one thing, its made me good and patient with untieing tangles...

[quintrex101]

The exception is when I am targeting Kingies I use mono.
Green Maxima is the only mono I use and been using it for 45 years.
I still have my 650 bait runner filled with Maxima but most of my other

that maxima is great stuff one of the best monos, my dads been using it for about 20 years now :hellyeah:

[beats]

OK time to buy into this 1 to aid the confusion that may be occoring with people looking for the answers to the questions.

*Gel Spun or PE, True Braided line, Best used on baitcasters for lure fishing, virtually no "memory" which produces a better casting line for smaller barrels & because it has basically ZERO stretch it allows you to feel every tap, piece of structure or strand of weed your lure touches which aids you in controlling your lure through some very rugged country without snagging up. It also aids you in depth of lure presentation as the diameter is far less than Mono of the same breaking strain. Also great for deep water work on larger overheads, as the zero stretch allows you to feel every tiny thing basically becoming your eyes at the business end.

*Fused Gelspun, Berkley Fireline, Stren MicroFuse or alike, still basically ZERO stretch, much better alternative than a True Braid for smaller Spinning Reels, far better behaved & more forgiving in the wind knot department due to having slightly more "memory" than braid, but still far less "memory" than mono lines. aplication again lure fishing for reasons stated above. Also great for using with down rigged livebaits or lures as the zero stretch aids in hook setting to take up the drop back quicker and has better abrasion qualities than Braids.

*Mono, a far better option when bait fishing estuaries, trolling for larger pelagics or lurefishing large pelagics or leutgenits that hit like freight trains in bad country, due to its stretch factor & abrasion resistance. also a must for surface lure trace, as even light flurocarbon leaders will drag down or hinder performance of surface lures to around 80mm long.

*Flurocarbon, mainly used for leader material for its low stretch & claims to dissapear in water due to its density being apparently similar to that of water, it also sinks which allows you to again use slightly less weight and works a treat on sub surface flies or weightless soft plastic presentations.
Some use flurocarbon as a main line for 1-4kg marks for small hard bodies or clearwater flats work.

*MEMORY: means the ability of a line to retain its previous posture, ie... when it comes of the reel it either lays out limp & virtually straight, or retains its posture of coming off the reel in a spring or pigs tail attitude.

*CASTING, Gel Spun lines do cast further than mono always "when talking in breaking strains" as Mono is normally alot thicker for the same breaking strain as a Gel Spun line.

*WIND KNOTS, you do get alot more wind knots with Gel Spun for 2 reasons, because they have virtually NO memory in the case of braid.
the other being as stated before the reel is not designed for it, some reels are designed these days with oversized or may say twist buster bail rollers & fast oscilating spools which decrease the problem.
However the biggest cause of wind knots is not being attentive to your retrieve, as DC has mentioned & it happens to everyone 1 day it goes all day without a hick-up, the next from not having your mind on the job you get the day from hell & it drives you mad untill you sort ya sh1t out & get down to buisness & can cost you a penny also if you have a few baddies.

*BREAKING IN, most Gel Spuns will definately need breaking in to behave to thier optimum, suggest go to park for half an hour before using them with a sinker on the end & cast the crap outa it !
True braids not as bad as fused Gel Spuns.

The feel through braid even over a short distance is greater than mono, sorry DC, but honestly, I can feel a jig head sliding through the pegs of a bream, which in a comp leaves an surly feeling in ya tummy cause you know you just blew a good fish, with mono I wouldnt have even known.
1 other exception to this is fishing for fish that are known to suck in prey from a fair distance eg, yella's the stretch in mono helps in this case how ever this can be adjusted to braids by using lighter or far softer tipped rods. "Kamil", this will also fix alot of your hook pulling problems with you stated with Braided lines.

Hope this helps those having trouble getting thier heads around the gel spun V's mono debate.
Its not gospel, as there are varients with every thing for any application, but it's the best observation I can give you.
GOOD LUCK.

1 other thing don't be led into the fact that braids are stronger , this comes from the diameter differences to the same breaking strain mono, they normally break at close to stated EXCEPT fused Gel Spuns in their case they break close to double thier breaking strains but drop back to about 1/3rd above after knotting with the right knots.

[quintrex101]

far out you got any thing there mate, thanks that help me heeps :hellyeah: :hellyeah: :hellyeah:

[BONECRUSHER]

what did Tom Sawyer and Huckleberry Finn on their bamboo sticks? :3d moon:

[Dog Catcher]

However the biggest cause of wind knots is not being attentive to your retrieve, as DC has mentioned & it happens to everyone 1 day it goes all day without a hick-up, the next from not having your mind on the job you get the day from hell & it drives you mad untill you sort ya sh1t out & get down to buisness & can cost you a penny also if you have a few baddies.

Yep Yep !

Like I said I went 6 months without what I call a wind knot then all of a sudden one after the other make it worse I knew what was causing it but when your in the habit of spinning a certain way.

It's hard to keep looking down @ your spool to ensure the 1st wrap or 2 onto that spool goes on as it should & it's on your next cast that the damage really occurs.

And yep as I said in earlier replys I still have use the stuff on a few of my overheads Platyl Fused on the larger deep water outfits & I even built a purpose 6kg rod to flick SP's @ YFT that outfit also has a Shimano Calcuter fully loaded up with Platyl Fused as do the chronachs which I use when I occasionally go fresh water fushing.

I just dont like the stuff on my threadline spinnining reels & dead against braid/gel spun etc whilst bait fushing it pee's me off when it tangles.

The feel through braid even over a short distance is greater than mono, sorry DC, but honestly

Mate each to their own I gave it a very good try out & to boot even tried out various brands some with a very high % of dyeema in their composition I just didn't get a stiffy using it still have spools of the stuff lying around which I'm sure my brother will help himself to & say you weren't using them & didn't want to see them go to waste.

Like I said & just my view a very good mono is just as good I've been using ANDE & find it a very good line to spin with + the one I use is a Pretty Pink colour :rolling laughter:

[Dog Catcher]

what did Tom Sawyer and Huckleberry Finn on their bamboo sticks? :3d moon:

They cut up their mothers mop up COOPS then tied the stands together

And boy wasn't she pee'd off

[Mr Potato Head]

They cut up their mothers mop up COOPS then tied the stands together

And boy wasn't she pee'd off


I Beleive that would make it a braid!!!!!!!!!!!

or maybe a MopSpun!

[BONECRUSHER]

I Beleive that would make it a braid!!!!!!!!!!!

or maybe a MopSpun!

:rolling laughter: :rolling laughter: :rolling laughter:

[jacobvz]

So there is agreement that you disagree with each other, how bizar :-)

Now another question on the same subject. Would you or would you not tie a leader to a braid when attaching lures etc.?

If yes which type of knot to use for the join. If not which type of knot to use to tie the lure/hook on a braid.

I am contemplating a braid simply because I get more line on a small reel. I'll be targeting mostly "small" (bream, flathead, estuary snapper) fish, but occasionally the bigger fish might bite :-)

Jack

[borisboga]

Now another question on the same subject. Would you or would you not tie a leader to a braid when attaching lures etc.?

If yes which type of knot to use for the join.
Jack

Mate you want a leader (either mono or fluro) to tie to your braid. And for lures, i wouldnt use a swivel, just tie your leader to your braid with a double uni knot.

[Mr Potato Head]

Surgeons knot in lighter applications...

Bimni twist and GT knot for heavy stuff....

[The Hun]

Man I am Glad I started this forum.... :red party:

[netic]

For jigging, especially in 100 metres+ water Braid is a must......

I was very much a pro mono man up until 2 years ago, now i use both for different sittuations.

Game gear has Mono, Live bait and small spinning stuff is mono....

Kingy outfits are braid with 5-6 metres of wind on leader tied with an improved allbright

[beats]

For lighter braids to lures say 2-15lb I use a improved albright knot to tie a fluro leader of 2-14lb or up to 80lb with mono leaders.
Heavier flurocarbons can be a bit dodgy with an albright as they are very hard & don't allow the braid to bight in a little, so tend to come undone after repetitive casting. In these cases I use a bimini twist double around 20cm long in braid tied to the leader material with a double uni knot.

In light leaders below 5lb I tie jig heads on with a centurai knot, great for light line as creates very little friction & is close to 100%.

heavier than 5lb I will use a simple loop knot for jig heads & hard bodies.

[KingsRule]

Alot of good points in here!

For me i like braid for all my lure work which is either lighter bream/flattie/ whiting stuff or chucking metals or sluggos at pelagics.

But for any of my bait fishing i am deffinatley a mono fan. I find it easier to rig up in a hot bite situation, provides good abrasion resistance which is vital fishing around moorings,jettys etc. And is alot cheaper when u loose half your spool and get busted off around a mooring rope:onfire:

[emboli]

I prefer mono with the heavier outfits but with lures and lighter outfits ill agree that braid casts out a lot further (due to less memory and diameter and less abrasions in the line for older lines) than mono.
Some pple love braid coz it comes in fluro colours that float top of the water and is great for lure fishing as pple rely on line twitch as the fish bites while the lure sinks rather than the feel of the bites.

Ill also agree that i have a instant "connection" with the fish with braid due to its lack of stretch.

Braid has downsides in that it will tangle if you let it blow in the wind while tying a new trace and the tangles are a LOT LOT more annoying and difficult to untangle. If you get a small knot in your line you will DEFINATELY feel it with braid as it will significantly reduce your cast distance.

Mono has a lot of upsides too. It is a great shock absorber and its very easy to untangle. If you are using mono and you are curious about braid knots its like getting knotted with 3-4 pound line. An absolute disaster. Mono is a Lot easier to knot but you should be using a mono leader and not having to change it unless you snag a lot.

Thats my point for view anywy =)

[leelee]

Yep I voted braid and I use it from breaking strains of 3lb, 4lb 6lb, 12lb, 20lb, 17kg and 50lb.

I use it of fishing lures and even when fishing in 20m I can 100% guarantee you that with braid you will feel the bite before you ever would with mono.

Also when retrieving lures you feel more bumps from both fish and structure using braid then I ever did using mono.

Mono has its place as does braid and it’s each to their own, but if you want to feel a fish mouth your bait or lure then use braid.

Simply buying and using braid will no assure you of better fishing as Wayne mentioned you need leaders and so forth to make the full equation work correctly.

Cheers

Lee

[fishchaser]

i use braid mainly for luring with light lures you feel more even the bottom.and feel the fish attack especially squid before they are hooked.i have a loomis light spinning rod and a 5gram metal lure will go as far as 40 meters.loomis rods are made for casting:ohhh yeah: